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Post by MR Bad English on May 26, 2019 20:46:42 GMT
any proof my friend?
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Post by hrjohn on May 27, 2019 4:32:25 GMT
you don't need proof for matters such as this. We're talking about a video game, a thing of fiction. Now in that little cute world of fiction, we know that rockport is in the same world as Palmont, however they are placed very close to each other in NFS World. This was done, because it'd be insane to make a Undercover alike map where there's a hundred miles of highway between cities. Now, since you had doubts about Palmont and Rockport NOT being literally side to side, then think about this: why isn't there an unfinished bridge, or sewers near north stadium?
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Post by MR Bad English on May 27, 2019 5:26:21 GMT
Because that road ends up in canyons of the Plamont city?
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Post by MR Bad English on May 27, 2019 5:28:17 GMT
And canyons were not included in NFS WORLD map?
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Post by MR Bad English on May 27, 2019 5:53:29 GMT
And besides I think they also wanted to add undercover's city to NFS WORLD as well butt EA shouted them down....man....I wished Black BOX and Criterion were still around,(unlike ghost games)they made some great games.
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Post by AAAAAAAAAAAA on May 27, 2019 6:44:59 GMT
I'm pretty sure devs did claim that NFS World's map isn't canon.
(may whoever looks up the proof for this statement be blessed)
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Post by hrjohn on May 27, 2019 7:10:05 GMT
I think our memories are credible enough for such claims, at least in this forum
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Post by MR Bad English on May 27, 2019 13:10:41 GMT
By " not far away from each other " I meant not far enough to effect the weather (at least not too much....) Yes you are right World's map is not flawless but it gives you an idea how Rockport and Palmont city were connected to each other and beside it is the best thing we have so far....but even if your theory is true I still doubt that there gonna be enough gaps between these two cities to have different weather effect from each other. And the reason why World doesn't have the unfinished bridge and the canyons is because it's a free to play game and it would get updated and upgraded over the time (just like this site ) but until then they had to use some place holders for some locations of the game like replacing the bridge with a short tunnel. And also even if the developers say: something isn't in their free to play game doesn't mean it's not gonna get added to the game (just like no limits) and beside I remember seeing a picture of NFS WORLD's canyons not sure it's 100% real though.let me find it.
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Post by hrjohn on May 27, 2019 16:59:17 GMT
you misunderstood, NFSW's map is not useful for scaling anything and since you've dug yourself this deep already, you should know that the canyons are an addition that you can't really drive to. It's unexplained because it's a work of fiction. This thread really gives me nostalgia, but not the good type
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Post by MR Bad English on May 27, 2019 17:25:05 GMT
Ummm.....dude the main thread was about the season,weather and the time line of these two games not the exact locations of these two cities.(long story short when that dude said Rockport and Palmont are not that close to each other I thought he means that they are so far from each other that they have different weather effect from each other.) and beside of that if canyons are an addition to the game so why are they so populated with traffics and also cops are allowed to cruise around? whereas all of the canyon races are empty from them? it should be empty just like MW's unfinished bridge.(forgive me if I am asking too much questions from you I am 13 and I am curious about the stuffs that going on around me) and BTW I thought the main purpose of this site was making new friends,theorise and have fun times with each other...Was that a lie?
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Post by hrjohn on May 27, 2019 21:03:12 GMT
sorry for confusing you, it's just that from one point theories become pointless, because reality kicks in. If you've been in the scene long enough you'll understand.
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Post by GT3 on May 28, 2019 2:03:36 GMT
(Waning:Bad English ) OK I'v been thinking about these stuff and I came with a better theory. I think carbon takes place in Spring season and it has nothing to do with location of Palmont city. Reason: it's raining in Palmont city, trees are green,canyons are foggy,half of the people you meet are wearing jackets and warm clothes and according to NFS WORLD's map Rockport and Palmont city are not far away from each other. @ BMW difference Yes my friend you are completely correct about that and I was aware of that as well but the reason I said repairing or upgrading was because of the fact that you only use the BMW M3 GTR for one event in Carbon and also because of the fact that BMW M3 GTR is not as customizable as other cars in the game so updating the sound of the car is kind of pointless in my opinion.(but you still might be right about that.) And now about the Aston martin flaw. I think they wanted to add and use an older version of Aston martin for the flashback race (like Aston martin v12 vanquish) but because they didn't have enough time to add an other car to the game they kind of ended up changing the DB9's tail lights so it kind of end up looking like a vanquish's tail lights so if someone asked them about Wolf tfk's Aston martin flaw they reply:yeah that's a vanquish that looks like a DB9 because of the wide body kit just like how he got a Murcielago later on the game and it looked like a Reventon from front. I really hope this theory end up being right cuz if it those then it might make 379Felipe to add an Aston martin v12 vanquish in his improvement mod. The DB9/Vanquish theory won't work because that's not the only car that messes up the timeline. The Chrysler 300C didn't come out until 2005 and yet there is one in the prologue. And it would be better if we don't use the NFS World map to base any theories for MW and Carbon. And one more thing I realized is, when Cross and Darius are talking in the intro, Cross says "now this guy's from out of town". This means that Cross was probably already there in Palmont for some time before the player showed up (I don't see any other reason why Darius and Cross would know each other).
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Post by MR Bad English on May 28, 2019 9:22:53 GMT
sorry for confusing you, it's just that from one point theories become pointless, because reality kicks in. If you've been in the scene long enough you'll understand. it's ok my friend I'm also sorry for causing some misunderstanding and making you mad from myself.
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Post by MR Bad English on May 28, 2019 10:00:51 GMT
The DB9/Vanquish theory won't work because that's not the only car that messes up the timeline. The Chrysler 300C didn't come out until 2005 and yet there is one in the prologue. And one more thing I realized is, when Cross and Darius are talking in the intro, Cross says "now this guy's from out of town". This means that Cross was probably already there in Palmont for some time before the player showed up (I don't see any other reason why Darius and Cross would know each other). I actually wanted to say maybe that 300C is a concept car but that's not gonna change anything because the concept model of that car (at my knowledge) was revealed in 2003...... so the best thing we can do right now is ignoring the Prima Guide and having fun with these two games.
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Post by LACooper on May 28, 2019 20:12:21 GMT
Palmont and Rockport are hundreds if not thousand of miles apart, enough to have different climate affects.
Palmont has deserts, palms, cactus, canyons and large beaches but also bonfires around. Rockport doesn't have these aside the beach. Rockport has a lot of forests, mountains, farms and an autumn scenery - the cities are more than obvious far from each other.
Also, storywise if the cities weren't far away the Palmont crews would have known what you did and become the Most Wanted before your return.
They wear light jackets and open, it's night which means it would be warm enough to still wear a jacket but not to cold. Cross wears a short sleeve shirt, Neville wears a Hawaiian shirt and Nikki wears a skirt.
I assume it would be between 15°C and 25°C.
They changed the sound to have better and more accurate sound that always makes sense also you can unlock the BMW M3 GTR for Quick Race.
The developers stated that the two maps were merged a few miles apart together because of the online racing but that they are many many miles away from each other.
You can't use the cars to specify the timeline, they simply used cars that were new and popular at the time for the game, the appearance of cars in cut scenes is without matter for the stories time and year.
The canyons and specific city areas are foggy because the heat of streets and environments at day cools down at night especially in rural and mountanious environments, summer rain increases the effect.
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Post by MR Bad English on May 29, 2019 9:22:11 GMT
I disagree,even though I think both Rockport and Palmont have similar kind of weather but I think Rockport is the one which has warmer and sultry weather. Reason: Rockport is surrounded by the sea whereas palmont is mostly surrounded by green mountains and canyons ,there are lots of boats and ships around the city,there are even boats that you can use as pursuit breaker in the game,Rockport has shipyards and Harbors and wider beach area than Palmont,People of the Rockport city wearing shirts and bikinis in the autumn season whereas peaople of the Palmont city wearing warmer clothes in spring season and beside of that most of these canyons in Palmont city are taken place in the jungles and forests and green areas I don't recall seeing any desert area in Carbon.
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Post by GT3 on May 29, 2019 9:52:23 GMT
I disagree,even though I think both Rockport and Palmont have similar kind of weather but I think Rockport is the one which has warmer and sultry weather. Reason: Rockport is surrounded by the sea whereas palmont is mostly surrounded by green mountains and canyons ,there are lots of boats and ships around the city,there are even boats that you can use as pursuit breaker in the game,Rockport has shipyards and Harbors and wider beach area than Palmont,People of the Rockport city wearing shirts and bikinis in the autumn season whereas peaople of the Palmont city wearing warmer clothes in spring season and beside of that most of these canyons in Palmont city are taken place in the jungles and forests and green areas I don't recall seeing any desert area in Carbon. There is a desert to the northeast of Palmont. It's most easily visible from San Juan (on the map San Juan is in the northeast so we will consider that for the purpose of this theory). If we theorize based on geography alone, then Palmont is on the west coast and Rockport is on the east coast. Assuming the player did not go directly from Rockport to Palmont, it must have taken him anywhere between a week or a month.
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Post by LACooper on May 29, 2019 18:55:34 GMT
I disagree,even though I think both Rockport and Palmont have similar kind of weather but I think Rockport is the one which has warmer and sultry weather. Reason: Rockport is surrounded by the sea whereas palmont is mostly surrounded by green mountains and canyons ,there are lots of boats and ships around the city,there are even boats that you can use as pursuit breaker in the game,Rockport has shipyards and Harbors and wider beach area than Palmont,People of the Rockport city wearing shirts and bikinis in the autumn season whereas peaople of the Palmont city wearing warmer clothes in spring season and beside of that most of these canyons in Palmont city are taken place in the jungles and forests and green areas I don't recall seeing any desert area in Carbon. You might disagree, but you should believe when I tell you that. Rockport has autumn weather, which means it reaches colder temperatures. Rockport is mostly surrounded by farms, forests and mountains with a seaside. Rockport has many boats and ships because it has a large fishing industry along the shore. Palmont has a large beach in Kempton and the entire city has palms everywhere, Rockport doesn't have palms, which underlines that Palmont has a subtropical climate and warmer, also Fortuna is on the coast too. Silverton is near the desert and has some cactus and desert environments. Some canyons are redrock and others are in more rural and Forest sections of the mountains. Palmont has a large shipyard for cargo ships and cranes in Kempton, there are yachts in Fortuna. Rockport heavily based on Manhatten, New Jersey and such, everything in the northern east coast. Palmont is based on Las Vegas, Los Angeles/Beverly Hills, Santa Monica/Downtown LA and Long Beach and New Mexico. Everything in the southern west coast and mid west. I don't unterstand what makes you think the cities are close to each other, the road behind the old bridge doesn't lead to the canyon in Palmont - it goes somewhere in the United States at first.
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