UG2 Reasonable Maps

2bad cuz I wish we could make something which makes sense out of all these 8 images ffs:



xddddddddddddddd yh I'll show these images to MW too and maybe he's going to make something half decent out of them since he never finished his real map of UG2 project. You guys can try too even if MW gets back to work as well.

all dem' feels
lmao

If you want to fit all the closed tracks on the map while not deleting any free roam road and taking into consideration the surroundings of each track as much as possible (though that's mostly impossible because for example, Industrial Park features buildings from Olympic City and not from Bayview)...



You can't get anything better than this, trust me. Only sizes may be wrong here, but you get the idea.

[7:40:29 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: i.imgur.com/aTICim2.png this is the map, andrus said he will make it look clearer
[7:40:56 PM] MW: niice that'll work
[7:41:11 PM] MW: yep they are indeed in the places i imagined them to be in too

:^)

EDIT: About Bayview Bridge:


[7:46:10 PM] MW: also

[7:46:14 PM] MW: bayview bridge thing

[7:46:30 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: I ignored that because

[7:46:31 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: "If someone would want to fit all the closed tracks on the map while not deleting any free roam road and taking into consideration the surroundings of each track as much as possible (though that's mostly impossible because for example, Industrial Park features buildings from Olympic City and not from Bayview), this is the closest one could get."

[7:46:40 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: It would fuck up a free roam road probably

[7:46:46 PM] MW: makes sense

[7:46:46 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: So I didn't add it on my map

[7:47:06 PM] MW: yeah i for example would have added it on there even if it would twist the world

[7:47:15 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: And the thing with it is

[7:47:27 PM | Edited 7:48:30 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: It makes sense to be added only in a place where it fucks up free roam roads sadly

[7:48:05 PM | Edited 7:48:15 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Closed tracks at least can be placed in places where they don't screw up any free roam road and make half sense. Just what I did

[7:48:23 PM] MW: i remember what i actually did was redrawing the world's geography

[7:48:55 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: I could do that too if you help lol

[7:49:02 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Otherwise I'm not adding that bridge

[7:49:15 PM | Edited 7:49:59 PM] MW: flew up with that one trainer which makes you fly with spamming end and did it in a half arsed way so i'd be able to press page down when high enough (and looking down with hood cam) and could basically do the same thing with top down geometry as i did with carbon

[7:49:39 PM] MW: though ug2's scenery is much less 3d so it didnt help as much (at all)

[7:50:40 PM] MW: i remember including things such as adding the bay or river thing to the north of jackson

[7:50:45 PM] MW: heights

[7:50:52 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: My map is just for all Street X and Drift tracks anyways

[7:51:00 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Did you add that Coal Harbor drag too?

[7:51:10 PM] MW: i unfortunately didnt get there

[7:51:13 PM] MW: just thought of that though

[7:51:41 PM] MW: i kind of thought it was in that eastern city textures area

[7:51:52 PM | Edited 7:52:09 PM] MW: but didnt go there to confirm (did but not outside drag)

[7:52:09 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Out of all drivable roads my map will miss just that Coal Harbor drag and the Bayview Bridge

[7:53:01 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: We used debug camera on the Bayview Bridge track and yeah

[7:53:06 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: We found too much non sense lol

[7:53:25 PM] MW: i had an idea for that

[7:53:35 PM] MW: let me draw

[7:53:39 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Alright

[7:53:50 PM] MW: i remember i think i posted it on the forums at one point but maybe not

[7:54:07 PM] MW: some things like the ferris wheel from beacon h can be seen from that road

[7:54:23 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: i.imgur.com/pyhXbw3.jpg

[7:54:28 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: This is what you see

[7:54:43 PM] MW: now what you Could consider

[7:54:49 PM] MW: is that you were never meant to look that way

[7:54:57 PM] MW: imagine if they would add all the buildings n detail

[7:55:48 PM] MW: i dont know but something like the wheel being seen from your peripheral when going Backwards would make sense but like other than that you dont see much else from the other direction either

[7:56:16 PM | Edited 7:56:28 PM] MW: is the east bayview concept completely axed or it's just not considered in general by yall rn

[7:57:23 PM] Ovidiu Chirila: Well it's just textures to us I guess

[7:57:47 PM] MW: i c

From Discord DM group I just made with all NFST1/2 Admins ever aka MW, Kacpa, me, Laser and Speedy:

SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:32 PM
oh yeah ignore the scenery in the bayview bridge map
its offset and flipped in some of the locales
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:34 PM
Well roations in loactions like this were rarely correct
Mostly by random chance
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:34 PM
actually majority are correct
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:34 PM
Just look at Carbon
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:35 PM
i.imgur.com/TXOyV4w.png

Kacpa2 - Today at 8:36 PM
The biggest issue with ug1 and ug2 are locations of extra events
gRiMBMW - Today at 8:36 PM
Yes Speedy but
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:36 PM
Like drag races and the track
gRiMBMW - Today at 8:36 PM
Won't that screw up free roam roads?
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:36 PM
They are out of scale
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:36 PM
the stadium does not fit inside the stadium btw
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:36 PM
To the rest of the stuff
Especially stadium
In ug2
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:36 PM
you are trying too hard to make something logical out of illogical things
:V
gRiMBMW - Today at 8:37 PM
Well guys you are free to make a better map ya know
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:37 PM
the bayview test track overlaps the powerplant
Greg - Today at 8:37 PM
the ratios between the sizes of the freeroam and extra tracks in ug2 are simply garbage
SpeedyHeart - Today at 8:37 PM
but i think the scenery is flipped so you put it in the top right
Greg - Today at 8:37 PM
same as in carbon and the canyon routes
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:37 PM
Ye
They just put them in there at random
Simple rotating would fix it
But nah
Greg - Today at 8:38 PM
they can be placed on a map if you ignore the ratios and follow the scenery - what youre meant to perceive
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:38 PM
Yes
Greg - Today at 8:38 PM
from a game world logical perspective
that wont work
obvs
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:39 PM
But thats the issue when you try to fit area which for gameplay purposes is much bigger than it should be
In some specific spot
Greg - Today at 8:39 PM
exactly it's a bit annoying
gRiMBMW - Today at 8:39 PM
So ye anyone who wants to make a better map than mine in terms of not screwing up free roam roads is free to do it xd @speedyheart ye could make better map too ya know(edited)
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:40 PM
Nah i dont have time for this
Greg - Today at 8:40 PM
the way i solved this (using the non logical , perception method) was considering those scenery textures to the east of bayview, perceive them as a city of its own we can't enter and assume that the extra locations are there, that was in 2014 and i redrew that map from memory i.imgur.com/ZLmU8VI.jpg(edited)

it seemed possible to me anyway
Kacpa2 - Today at 8:40 PM
It's like dis fight with kiddies under that stupid "story of ryan copper" video
gRiMBMW - Today at 8:41 PM
Also the stadium fits if you make it a single big stadium (Cooper Field or Eskuri Arena because yes, there are two stadiums next to each other in game) and if you remove the big parking lot around it or make it smaller. @speedyheart(edited)
Greg - Today at 8:41 PM
im not saying its right or good that was just what i used for the videos that i didnt make
then