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Post by SpeedY on Nov 7, 2015 20:44:01 GMT
the caution lights are just sprites and not actually lights. the sun is just a sprite too, none of the lights are dynamic and the yellow/orange comes from enviroment mapping I don't know what it means what you say.... (have some shots in me) I NASCAR games the sun and flare work on real time with real time shadows. ive had a look at a few nascar games. the ones after 2007 have cheap dynamic lighting. the ones before seem to only use dynamic lighting on cars and not world props(a pretty basic dynamic lighting anyway with quick inaccurate shadows) NFS didnt really have dynamic lights until carbon where the headlights actually are lights which move and effect the environment, nfsmw used textures for the ground shadows and used environment maps instead of light refraction
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Post by mouse on Nov 7, 2015 21:45:02 GMT
So what about beta busted cutscenes. thanks
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Post by marik on Nov 10, 2015 17:59:08 GMT
Your welcome
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Post by LACooper on Nov 10, 2015 19:01:30 GMT
I don't know what it means what you say.... (have some shots in me) I NASCAR games the sun and flare work on real time with real time shadows. ive had a look at a few nascar games. the ones after 2007 have cheap dynamic lighting. the ones before seem to only use dynamic lighting on cars and not world props(a pretty basic dynamic lighting anyway with quick inaccurate shadows) NFS didnt really have dynamic lights until carbon where the headlights actually are lights which move and effect the environment, nfsmw used textures for the ground shadows and used environment maps instead of light refraction When you talk about the one's before 2007, you mean the PC releases or console releases, console releases are superior have much better graphics and more effects...just sayin.
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Post by SpeedY on Nov 11, 2015 11:27:54 GMT
ive had a look at a few nascar games. the ones after 2007 have cheap dynamic lighting. the ones before seem to only use dynamic lighting on cars and not world props(a pretty basic dynamic lighting anyway with quick inaccurate shadows) NFS didnt really have dynamic lights until carbon where the headlights actually are lights which move and effect the environment, nfsmw used textures for the ground shadows and used environment maps instead of light refraction When you talk about the one's before 2007, you mean the PC releases or console releases, console releases are superior have much better graphics and more effects...just sayin. the console versions use fake dynamic shadows :V its pretty easy to do as the tracks are basically a giant square... you cant really fake dynamic shadow a whole city (nfs) and make it look passable
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Post by LACooper on Nov 11, 2015 18:49:30 GMT
What you mean with fake dynamic shadows?
I know 2003, 2004 and 2005 had a sunset to night transition at the night races...but all the console versions had that the shadows of the car change (move) as of the lights you pass (sun at day and for night the light poles).
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Post by SpeedY on Nov 11, 2015 19:46:54 GMT
What you mean with fake dynamic shadows? I know 2003, 2004 and 2005 had a sunset to night transition at the night races...but all the console versions had that the shadows of the car change (move) as of the lights you pass (sun at day and for night the light poles). Real dynamic lighting is basically ray tracing from light sources. GTA sa had moving shadows with time of day But that's not actually real dynamic lighting. There are many different ways to get a cheap looking dynamic shadow effect.
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Post by LACooper on Nov 11, 2015 20:22:29 GMT
Ok
A few examples of EA's NASCAR games recorded with a camera (not mine)
NASCAR Thunder 2003 Pepsi 400
NASCAR Thunder 2004 Pepsi 400
NASCAR 2005 Chase for The Cup
Pepsi 400 Day2Night
NASCAR 06 Total Team Control
Coca Cola 600
Daytona 500
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Post by mouse on Nov 13, 2015 14:45:31 GMT
:/ Never saw this
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Post by Blackweed on Nov 14, 2015 15:03:27 GMT
Always curious as to why it has Cross cop cars in. No idea A few possibilities: - It might be temporary because the devs couldn't think of a paint job for normal heat lvl 5 cop cars yet. - It was originally supposed to be the paint job for heat lvl 5 cop cars since normal cop cars are usually black and white and not completely white. - Multiple sergeants in the game. (Very unlikely though)
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Post by LACooper on Nov 14, 2015 16:53:18 GMT
A few possibilities: - It might be temporary because the devs couldn't think of a paint job for normal heat lvl 5 cop cars yet. - It was originally supposed to be the paint job for heat lvl 5 cop cars since normal cop cars are usually black and white and not completely white. - Multiple sergeants in the game. (Very unlikely though) There's a mod that makes all Corvette to Cross, actually just changes the paint job to Cross... Is this official from IGN or some find with Google on some website, because it can be fake. Not true...cops aren't always black and white, it depends on the state/city... Example: NY has White with Blue, LA has Black and White...
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Post by marik on Nov 14, 2015 17:53:49 GMT
Okay, is there any more stuff on beta or that's it
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Post by Blackweed on Nov 15, 2015 8:02:20 GMT
A few possibilities: - It might be temporary because the devs couldn't think of a paint job for normal heat lvl 5 cop cars yet. - It was originally supposed to be the paint job for heat lvl 5 cop cars since normal cop cars are usually black and white and not completely white. - Multiple sergeants in the game. (Very unlikely though) There's a mod that makes all Corvette to Cross, actually just changes the paint job to Cross... Is this official from IGN or some find with Google on some website, because it can be fake. Not true...cops aren't always black and white, it depends on the state/city... Example: NY has White with Blue, LA has Black and White... I meant the cop cars IN the game. The civic cruiser is black and white, the pontiac GTO is black and white, the SUVs are black and white, but the corvette is entirely white. Not counting Undercover cars because they're supposed to be black.
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Post by LACooper on Nov 15, 2015 10:30:02 GMT
Even that...special units (can) have different liveries than regular cars.
In Most Wanted the Corvettes are named to be Cross's Special Unit...
+ I doubt they would have had Cross's livery with the details he has on his car with the busted cars detail etc...
In Undercover the Heat 4 Cars are Laguna Blue/White Nissan GTR's (Super State Patrol) and Hest 5 is Dark Blue/Black Porsche's with a blue/white stripe on the sides.
I guess the picture above is fake, there's there's a 'mod' to pit Cross's livery on the heat 5 corvettes...and the IGN logo was put on it...source we need.
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Post by SpeedY on Nov 15, 2015 15:12:56 GMT
Even that...special units (can) have different liveries than regular cars. In Most Wanted the Corvettes are named to be Cross's Special Unit... + I doubt they would have had Cross's livery with the details he has on his car with the busted cars detail etc... In Undercover the Heat 4 Cars are Laguna Blue/White Nissan GTR's (Super State Patrol) and Hest 5 is Dark Blue/Black Porsche's with a blue/white stripe on the sides. I guess the picture above is fake, there's there's a 'mod' to pit Cross's livery on the heat 5 corvettes...and the IGN logo was put on it...source we need. oh its real the page does not exist anymore but google has records.
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Post by ∞zhrizz∞ on Nov 15, 2015 15:54:43 GMT
Maybe all Heat 5/6 Corvettes were intended to look like that originally. We never really see any trailers/beta videos with the regular Heat 5 Corvette, so there's nothing to say that we're wrong.
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Post by 379Felipe on Nov 15, 2015 16:14:20 GMT
So, I just noticed that I haven't made a list of all hidden/unused preset cars in final version of NFSMW. COPGTOPURSUIT COP_CROSS OPM_RX8_Version2 (It PROBABLY was the yellow preset RX8 in PS2 Demo) GT_ELISE_ROG STARKY_HUTCH_EVO_ROG OPM_MUSTANG_VERSION2 (It PROBABLY was the red Mustang with a white stripe in PS2 demo) Note: The purple cars can basically copy and paste the colors and vinyls from the two last seen cars. It's probably the result of the hashes that were not updated.
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Post by LACooper on Nov 15, 2015 17:03:21 GMT
Maybe all Heat 5/6 Corvettes were intended to look like that originally. We never really see any trailers/beta videos with the regular Heat 5 Corvette, so there's nothing to say that we're wrong. Because the Beta / PS2 Demo Stage had the Crown Vics on all heats...GTO and Corvette must been an addition later to have a variety on higher heats...I don't think Cross's Vinyl was supposed to be on all the Corvettes because of specific details on the car (e.g. the busted cars livery). At the time, Cross was supposed have the only Corvette as we can tell from the PS2 Demo Gameplay and Ending scene, the intro and the story cut scenes.
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Post by marik on Nov 15, 2015 17:04:56 GMT
As i think Cross was supposed on heat level 1 or heat level 2 on demo. I have an ? is it possible to find cars in heat level 1 and 2
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Post by Blackweed on Nov 16, 2015 2:23:40 GMT
As i think Cross was supposed on heat level 1 or heat level 2 on demo. I have an ? is it possible to find cars in heat level 1 and 2 Don't think so... as I said before, having Cross in the demo would reveal too much about the actual game.
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